A320 FSLabs

Srs.

Parece que em breve teremos um A320.


http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/5780-the-a320-x-news-and-more/

Pelo tempo de projeto...Provavelmente � a PMDG dos "Airbus"

Infelizmente j� estou at� vendo tendo que comprar mais um airbus

Eles est�o desenvolvendo desde 2010, tiveram alguns problemas no meio do caminho mas continuaram e ao que parece esse ano deve sair. A inten��o deles � ser extremamente realista.

eduardoamll escreveu:Eles est�o desenvolvendo desde 2010, tiveram alguns problemas no meio do caminho mas continuaram e ao que parece esse ano deve sair. A inten��o deles � ser extremamente realista.

Pelo som 3D da APU ...J� da para colocar "confian�a" neles

Estou namorando esse Airbus j� faz muito tempo, tenho o Airsimmers e o Wilco, depois dos fracassos anteriores, decidi somente comprar o da FSLabs, ent�o, j� tem muito tempo que estou na espera. kkkkk

Parece que ser� s� o A320 (com expans�o para o A319 e 21), mas eles tinham prometido para Novembro de 2013, e desde ent�o, s� em desenvolvimento... espero que seja em 2015, pois eles est�o usando o ARINC para desenvolver os c�digos https://www.eurocontrol.int/articles/arinc424-specification

Reparem que o ORIGINAL � de 2012 e que atualizaram em 10/04/2015 (http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/4257-a320-compact-information/)

COMPACT INFORMATION ABOUT THE FSLabs A3XX-Series
LAST UPDATED: 10th April 2015

ATTENTION: I'M NOT A MEMBER OF FLIGHT SIM LABS AND I DO NOT OWN ANY SECRET INFORMATION. EVERYTHING WRITTEN BELOW IS BASED ON FACTS WHICH ARE AVAILABLE IN PUBLIC.

THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PRODUCT DESCRIPTION. EVERYTHING CAN BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

The latest updates in this topic will be highlighted in red. If you find some new official information that should be listed here, just leave me a message and I will include them.

Features

Panels
- Full set of 2D-panels
- Captain and first officer view
- IFR and VFR panel version (small or full ECAM view)
- All displays are available as pop-up and sizeable
- EIS2 LCD-screen layout
- No Heads Up Guidance System
- standby DDRMI

Systems
- Every "flight sim related" system is simulated (but not the toilets in the lavatories)
- A "system behind the systems" that simulates the data flow/connections like in the real aircraft, using neural networks
- Recreation of the real wiring, connectors, relays, switches and servos
- All systems working with a very small deviation from the real specifications

- Complete custom coded 3D fuel system simulating realistic fluids behaviour, depending on various environment factors
- Complete custom coded engine simulation, fully independent from FSX for realistic engine behaviour
- Complete custom coded FBW system (complex control loops for maximum accuracy and realism)
- Complete recreation of the Electronic Flight Control System (EFCS) with ELAC, SEC, FAC, SFCC
- Complete recreation of Normal Law, Alternate Law, Direct Law and Mechanical Backup
- Relevant systems following various ARINC-specifications like the real aircraft:
ARINC429 (with ARINC 600/615 data stream support), ARINC 424 protocols, and RS422 (with ARINC 600 support)
- Accurate simulation of the different electric and hydraulic systems
- Systems featuring Electronic Instrument System 2 - EIS2 (LCD-Screens, updated systems, etc.) up to version 1.7.0
- Terrain on ND and EGPWS
- Full recreation of the IRS system with position drift and GPS position update
- Recreation of system behaviour that isn't documented in the FCOM but existing in the real world
- Accurate simulation of Rockwell Collins WXR-2100 weather radar (including PWS) using Active Sky Next weather
- brake fans
- Extremely accurate lift, drag and thrust simulation based on comprehensive data from various visits of Level-D simulators and real flights and running outside of FSX to overcome FSX design flaws
- New rolling and sliding coefficients, dynamically loaded when using the A320-X, allowing a realistic handling of the aircraft in all situations (supporting realistic single engine taxi etc.), replicating accurate stopping distances on dry, wet, snow and iced runway surfaces
- Various icing effects and simulation, including e.g. cold engine starts
- System simulation that is running outside of FSX is supporting multi core CPUs and also uses the GPU
- Engine variants CFM56-5B4 and IAE2527-A5
- APU Honeywell 131-9A

Sound
- Innovative 3D sound design that allows the developer to place sounds at specific points in space
- Based on various high quality recordings
- Customizable callouts to reflect different airline options
- Sounds will be heard where and when they are audible in the real aircraft
- authentic sound for every single button

Virtual Cockpit and Exterior Model
- Presence of a mix of painted and photo real textures, resulting in a immersive and realistic look
- usage of FSL spotlights, shipped together with the A320
- High resolution exterior model (e.g. writings below the static ports are readable)
- Virtual cabin visible from the outside
- Visible simulation of wear and tear in VC and 2D cockpit depending on the time of use
- Accurate wing "bouncing"
- Realistic water spray effects
- dynamic contrail system based upon atmospheric conditions and time of day.

Versions

2 Versions
- "Entertainment version" for FSX, the first product to be released
("entertainment" primarily means "home use", it's not something like Airbus "Light")
- "Professional/Enthusiast version" for Prepar3D
- Both versions will be available for the "normal" customer

Why 2 versions?
The split into 2 versions is the result of
- licensing conflicts (FSX is an "entertainment" platform, the "professional version" will feature a training/commercial licence)
- FSX limitations that prevent many features or are complicating the programming of those
- the price of such "professional version", which also requires a certification process if it's meant to be used for training purposes.

What are the differences?
- Both versions will feature the same aircraft in terms of aircraft systems and sytem behaviour
- Both versions will have the capability to simulate various failures

- The major difference will be the presence of a failure generator/instructor station for the "professional version" but also some other features like working circuit breakers which are intended for pilots and enthusiasts.

- The "entertainment version", will feature a limited option to trigger specific failures manually by the user.
- The "entertainment version" will feature a general "Failures ON/OFF" option which will generate failures depending on aircraft handling, environment conditions and the probability for a specific failure in the real aircraft. (hot/hung starts, ignition failures, compressor stalls and many others)

- All failures can be handled like in the real aircraft (ECAM actions etc.) in both versions.

- Multicrew is planned to be included in the "professional version"
- More information on the following versions will be given after the initial FSX-release

Release and more

Release
- It's ready, when it's ready
- A short beta phase is anticipated, as alpha-testing is already going on for 2 years
- There will be a short but intense marketing campaign
- The FSX-Version will be first to release

Pricing
- Not defined yet
- Price of the "entertainment" version will be lower than the "enthusiast/professional" version

Beta Tester
- The selection of beta tester has been completed and all chosen candidates have been informed
Miscellaneous
- Comprehensive set of manuals and tutorials
- Different saved flight states
- Different liveries of the most common airlines flying the A320 in the real world available on release (either as extra download or included in the aircraft installation)
- Paintkit available for all costumers for free
- A319 and A321 will be expansion products for the A320, A318 depending on the consumer demand
- A330 and/or later A340 are options for the far future
- Navdata will be provided by any company that licenses the FSLabs data converter for ARINC 424 text files (e.g. Aerosoft or Navigraph)
- Many more innovative features that have never been seen before in FS will be unveiled once the aircraft is ready for release, to protect those secrets from getting copied by competitors
- Compatibility up to simrate x4 is expected
- Load and fuel manager for accurate operations, verified by using the real LPC software and real aircraft specifications
- Modular engine "plug-and-play" for individual modifications ( e.g. Drukair A319 )

Cara, h� quanto tempo esperamos por um Airbus "ala PMDG" hein!?
Eu tamb�m ca� no golpe da Airsimmer, que j� faz tanto tempo que at� curou. Era um que prometia ser algo bem � frente do seu tempo, mas infelizmente bailou. Tempos de FS9 ainda.
A� veio o Aerosoft que � legal, bonitinho, mas n�o � uma Brastemp.
Veio o BBS, que � o saudoso PSS com uma nova roupagem, que entrega o add-on em doses homeop�ticas e (pelos relatos) tamb�m n�o empolga.
Tem os do X-Plane, que eu particularmente n�o considero pra jat�es, gosto pessoal mesmo.
Enfim, parece que teremos um Airbus mesmo, finalmente!

PS.: N�o esqueci do Wilco n�o.

E pelo visto a vers�o do P3D vai sair bem mais $$$$$$$.

Reativando t�pico
Olha o que eu acabei de ver na listagem de pacotes da Navigraphhhhh


Acho que t� na reta final.

Muito bom Fl�vio, mas ser� que a lenda termina?

Ahhh... acho que agora t� perto. Nos pr�ximos 5 anos sai com certeza

flavioSSA escreveu:Ahhh... acho que agora t� perto. Nos pr�ximos 5 anos sai com certeza

Opa j� montei a rede na varanda.

Um dos devs postou hoje: "...we are currently preparing the product for release." (tradu��o Herbert Richers: no momento estamos preparando o produto para o lan�amento)

Pouso autorizado...

A� n�o, me pegou sem dinheiro.

Fifty, forty, thirty, twenty, ten...retard, retard, retard.
Ta vindo pessoal!
Quinta-feira ser� lan�ado o early adopters. E ser� bem salgado! 100 doletas.
http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/7128-an-update/

Brentano escreveu:Fifty, forty, thirty, twenty, ten...retard, retard, retard.
Ta vindo pessoal!
Quinta-feira ser� lan�ado o early adopters. E ser� bem salgado! 100 doletas.
http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/7128-an-update/

N�o acredito. A lenda chegou ao fim?

marcos1sp escreveu:

Brentano escreveu:Fifty, forty, thirty, twenty, ten...retard, retard, retard.
Ta vindo pessoal!
Quinta-feira ser� lan�ado o early adopters. E ser� bem salgado! 100 doletas.
http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/7128-an-update/

N�o acredito. A lenda chegou ao fim?

Hehehe � Marcos, esse demorou bastante.
Uma pequena corre��o ao que postei antes, o pre�o inicial ser� US$ 89.95 para o que eles chamam de "early-adopters" e depois aumentar� para US$ 99.95 quando da vers�o RTM.
N�o estou mais com FSX instalado, mas se conseguir comprar o early-adopters vou embarcar.

S� posso fazer investimentos no m�s que vem... (Porque comprar esse avi�o � um investimento)
Mas s�rio agora: acho que esse ai vale a pena heim? Fiquei meio preocupado com as v�rias vezes que ele falou em uso de VAS, performance, etc.... mas vamos ver.

Vers�o do P3D sai mais tarde e ainda vai ser mais cara

Quanto ao pre�o n�o fa�o nenhuma ressalva. J� esperava algo nessa faixa, at� um pouco mais.
� caro, mas tenho certeza de que vale. O Concorde deles � uma obra-prima e o Lefteris foi um dos cabe�as do MD-11 da PMDG, ent�o n�o tenho d�vidas de que ser� um add-on espetacular.
S� esperava que n�o cobrassem pela vers�o do P3D. Achava que seguiriam a linha mais "europ�ia" de pol�tica de pre�os.
A pr�pria justificativa deles � frustrante, dizendo que v�o cobrar (mais) devido � quest�es de licen�a. Ou seja, n�o � o fato de desenvolver para duas vers�es, que seria compreens�vel.
Fazer o que? Comprarei pra FSX e avaliarei (por alguns segundos hahaha) a necessidade (�bvia de t�-lo no P3D) de comprar pra P3D quando sair.

Brentano escreveu:Fifty, forty, thirty, twenty, ten...retard, retard, retard.
Ta vindo pessoal!
Quinta-feira ser� lan�ado o early adopters. E ser� bem salgado! 100 doletas.
http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/7128-an-update/

ih !t� caro n�?

Brentano escreveu:

marcos1sp escreveu:


N�o acredito. A lenda chegou ao fim?

Hehehe � Marcos, esse demorou bastante.
Uma pequena corre��o ao que postei antes, o pre�o inicial ser� US$ 89.95 para o que eles chamam de "early-adopters" e depois aumentar� para US$ 99.95 quando da vers�o RTM.
N�o estou mais com FSX instalado, mas se conseguir comprar o early-adopters vou embarcar.

Brentano

Ser�o duas vers�es? Uma para iniciante e outra para os experientes?
Ser� compat�vel com FSX SE?

Na hora que vi o pre�o confesso que tomei um espanto por�m lembrei que paguei 60 d�lares em um JarDesigns para X-plane que n�o faz nem o b�sico...

O mais massa � que com essa aeronave o Maxmilian ter� agora um conte�do no seu canal ainda melhor em visto que a mesma trar� tudo simulado. (Para quem n�o sabe o Max tem um canal no youtube explicando detalhes por detalhes todos procedimentos do Airbus).

Eu acredito que ser� um �timo produto.. Mas falta muito preview n�? Tem uns 3 videos pequenos, 1 de 20 minutos que n�o mostra a decolagem inteira.. Umas 10 screens e s�..

Vou estar viajando na quinta feira, mas se puder eu compro. O da aerosoft � razo�vel mas nunca me convenceu em termos de imers�o. Os sons (externos ok, internos n�o gostei, faltam packs, e mais vida no som dos instrumentos), os flaps que baixam muito pouco, o pouso � sempre meio duro, parece que a suspens�o n�o tem curso. Fazer um NADP 1 com ele pesado ele quer estolar, n�o acelera, n�o sobe..

Dif�cil vai ser esperar mais sabe quantos anos pra sair o A318/19. O aerosoft vai continuar de step..